
Off The Grid: Leaving Social Media ⏱️ Making Time: Creativity over Productivity — with Maria Bowler
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Feb 26, 2025 In this engaging conversation, Maria Bowler, a writer and coach with a Master's in Religion and the Arts from Yale, discusses the nuances between productivity and creativity. She challenges the obsession with efficiency, proposing that true presence and engagement in our work foster creativity. Maria shares insights on how to stretch time and lose track of it, encouraging listeners to embrace creative friction as a catalyst for growth. Their discussion also touches on the complicated relationship with social media, emphasizing a more meaningful connection to art and life.
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Identity and Doing
- When identity is solely tied to doing, everything feels at stake, fueling a cycle of burnout.
- Disconnecting identity from doing allows deeper engagement with the creative process.
Defining Creativity
- Creativity is engaging with life on purpose to draw out more life, going beyond artistic expression.
- It's about the relationship with the process, the deep satisfaction of engaging fully.
Presence as Engagement
- Maria Bowler illustrates presence with the example of two dates: one with correct words but no engagement, the other with genuine interaction.
- True presence involves active engagement and a willingness to be surprised, not just calm performance.

