
The Daily A Shutdown Where None of the Normal Rules Apply
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Oct 17, 2025 Tyler Pager, White House correspondent, Catie Edmondson, Congressional correspondent, and Tony Romm, economic policy reporter, discuss the unprecedented dynamics of the current government shutdown. They explore how the White House is weaponizing the situation to exert political pressure and how funding decisions are strategically used against opponents. The conversation also highlights the impact on civilian employees and the complexities surrounding legal challenges to troop payments, while considering the potential paths to resolve the standoff.
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Civilian Workers Bear The Brunt
- Hundreds of thousands of civilian federal workers remain furloughed and unpaid.
- Tony Romm warns many face financial risk and possible loss of back pay.
Limited Presidential Engagement
- The White House has shown limited engagement in negotiating the shutdown.
- Tyler Pager notes Trump focused on other priorities instead of driving a deal.
Trump Can Snap Congressional Unity
- If Trump decides to end the shutdown, Republicans have historically followed his lead.
- Tyler Pager argues presidential will can quickly change the congressional dynamic.



