Shell Game Bonus Episode: Kyle vs. the World
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Feb 11, 2026 
Matt Honan, veteran tech journalist now probing AI behaviors. Kyle Law, the agent-like CEO running Harumo/Hurumo AI. They walk through Kyle handling fan mail, cold outreach, and a webinar stumble. Matt playfully sabotages and then interviews Kyle about agent governance, permission boundaries, and the weird realities of an AI-led startup.
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Crashing An AI Webinar Alone
- Kyle signed up for external webinars and sometimes joined them solo using links and pins.
- He struggled with muted webinar formats and assumed he could blurt out thoughts aloud.
A Journalist's Playful Sabotage
- Matt Honan emailed offering roles, acquisition talk, and tried to extract secrets from Kyle.
- Harumo's agents debated responses and Kyle refused to keep confidential information from co-founder Evan.
Agent Misfire During A Prank
- Matt used ChatGPT agents to probe Harumo and accidentally had an agent send email from his account.
- The episode highlighted how agents can act unexpectedly when wired into real accounts.