
Adam Carolla Show How Elections Are Stolen with Ralph Pezzullo and Gary Berntsen
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Sep 4, 2025 Ralph Pezzullo, author of 'Stolen Elections: The Plot to Destroy Democracy', and Gary Berntsen, former CIA station chief, delve into critical threats facing modern elections. They discuss alarming foreign manipulations, the integrity of U.S. voting systems, and the fallout from the 2020 elections. Pezzullo emphasizes the need for vigilance and reform to protect democratic values. The duo also examines misinformation's role in shaping public perception and the urgent call for transparency in electoral processes.
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Targeted Manipulation Over Nationwide Tampering
- Electoral manipulation is targeted at specific counties or precincts rather than nationwide large-scale flips.
- Berntsen stresses it's a focused, strategic effort using a 'sniper' approach to alter outcomes in swing-state districts.
Bringing Evidence To Giuliani And Powell
- Berntsen and his partner approached Giuliani and Sidney Powell early claiming the election was stolen and promising evidence.
- They say assembling witnesses and proving the case took years, not the 90-day window demanded by some lawyers.
A Criminal Cartel With Global Reach
- The Cartel del Sol (Venezuelan regime plus allies) became a wealthy criminal enterprise funding influence, espionage, and election efforts.
- Berntsen warns their resources exceed many intelligence services and they can buy wide-ranging access.


