Pod Save America Josh Shapiro Is Calm but Not Cool
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Mar 15, 2026 
Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania governor known for pragmatic governance and criminal justice reform, sits down to tackle rising antisemitism and Islamophobia. He discusses the Iran war, immigration enforcement and state efforts to block large ICE detention plans. He also explains delivering infrastructure through faster permitting and repair projects.
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Leaders Must Name And Fight Rising Religious Hate
- Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia are rising and require leaders to call them out with moral clarity across the political spectrum.
- Josh Shapiro emphasizes contacting targeted officials, public condemnation, and unity to prevent hate from escalating into violence.
Calm Problem Solving Beats Performative Outrage
- A measured, problem-solving style can be more effective than performative outrage for delivering results to voters.
- Shapiro says constituents want solutions, not daily theater, and that yelling wins likes but not governance.
How A Son's Question Changed A Governor's View On Executions
- Shapiro describes evolving from pro-death-penalty to abolition after conversations with victims' families and his son challenging the logic of state killing.
- He immediately put a moratorium on execution warrants upon becoming governor and urged legislative abolition.