Stephan Livera Podcast

Strive: Amplified Bitcoin Exposure Engine with Matt Cole | SLP710

Jan 15, 2026
Matt Cole, CEO and chairman of Strive, shares insights on the company's rapid growth and strategic acquisitions, including a notable merger with Semler Scientific. They dive into the rising institutional interest in Bitcoin treasury companies and discuss effective debt management strategies. Matt explains how Strive aims to generate yield through innovative digital credit products and explores the competitive landscape in the Bitcoin space. He offers a promising outlook for Bitcoin’s future as institutions become more engaged, alongside key differentiation strategies for treasury companies.
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INSIGHT

Scale Limits Preferred Issuance

  • Only a few issuers currently have the size to launch public preferred equity effectively.
  • Digital credit issuance has minimum scale limits, narrowing likely issuers to a small group.
ADVICE

Use All-Stock Mergers Strategically

  • Structure acquisitions as all-stock deals to preserve Bitcoin and be clean for Strive.
  • Seek win-win terms by offering liquidity, amplification, and higher MNAV to sellers.
INSIGHT

How To Think About MNAV And Amplification

  • MNAV should be judged case-by-case based on whether a company can sustainably outperform Bitcoin.
  • Amplification via protected preferred equity can outperform margin leverage because it avoids liquidation risk.
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