The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 211 - Security Awareness Series - From Phreaker to InfoSec Pro with John Young
Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by John Young. Like many security experts, John started out on the wrong side of the law by manipulating the AT&T phone system as a teenage phone phreak in New York City before he was scared straight by the FBI. His career started four decades ago in 1982, and by 1987 Young became the network director at McDonnell Douglas's $41.8 billion C-17 program. He eventually retired from IBM after a 30-year career in the corporate cyberwar trenches to launch his own company, CyberDef.
Regarded as one of America's top corporate cybersecurity experts and thought leaders, Young's published dozens of articles, appeared on countless podcasts, and is designing a video course for people based on his book so that they can thrive in cybersecurity. [May 15, 2023]
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Intro Links:
- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
04:51 - John Young Intro
06:41 - Scared Straight
15:38 - Imposter Syndrome
16:53 - Don't Quit Your Day Job!
22:54 - Integration is Key
28:05 - The Effect of AI on Cyber Security
32:32 - Tips to Stay Ahead
38:17 - Policies, Processes and Procedures
38:37 - Book Recommendations:
- Don't Hack! – John Young
43:22 - Find John Young Online
- LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-young-4aa083151/
- Website: https://cyberdef.tv
43:55 - Learn to Thrive
46:42 - Wrap Up & Outro