What's up everyone and welcome to The Corporate Bartender!

On this show we talk with a lot of authors, speakers, coaches, and subject matter experts about the people side of business. Today, we're going to do something a little different. We're going to talk with an amazing leader that actually USES the services our guests provide. We're calling this, "The Other Side Of The Bar!"

We've got Haris Shawl on the program today. Haris is a client of ours, and is a phenomenal leader.

He is the VP of Cyber Product Management at Capital One. Haris strives to be a noble-purpose leader and coach. He's self-aware, he knows how to leverage coaching and leadership development, and he refers to me and Ruby as "his woobie." We do need to mention that the opinions expressed here on the show are his own, and not those of any organization.

It's a thing I say a lot these days, but man, this conversation is one of my FAVORITES of 2025! We covered a lot of ground, shared some amazing stories, and I just know you're gonna dig it!

If you want to skip straight to the interview, 5:18 is your spot!

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0:00 - Show Open & Intro
1:10 - Titles
1:38 - Kickoff
5:18 - Haris Shawl Interview
1:04:47 - Wrap & Close

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