On with Kara Swisher

Tech Billionaires & the Rural Poor: Two Sides of Trump’s MAGA Populism

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Dec 4, 2025
Beth Macy, award-winning reporter and author, shares insights from her memoir and discusses the opioid crisis and community decline. Jacob Silverman, an independent journalist, examines the link between tech billionaires and rural America under the MAGA umbrella. They explore the role of social media in political polarization, the decline of upward mobility, and how non-political activities can mend family ties. Their conversation also touches on tech elites' accountability and strategies for bridging divides between different social groups.
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ANECDOTE

A Promising Student Pushed To The Brink

  • Beth Macy shares Silas James's story: a talented student who was homeless, lost his father to overdose, and struggled through a welding program.
  • He completed training by the skin of his teeth and now raises his younger siblings, highlighting fragile upward mobility.
INSIGHT

Elite Origins Shape Authoritarian Leanings

  • Several influential tech billionaires share formative experiences in hierarchical, patriarchal societies that shaped their elite, anti-democratic instincts.
  • Their long-term ideological organizing began in college and feeds current power accumulation.
INSIGHT

School Decline Driven By Absenteeism And Deregulation

  • Post-COVID absenteeism and deregulated homeschooling drained public schools and funding in rural areas.
  • Reduced oversight let some parents claim homeschooling to avoid truancy consequences, harming vulnerable children.
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