Iris Murdoch may be best known for her works of fiction, but her philosophical contributions were equally significant. A moral realist influenced by Plato and Simone Weil, she developed theories in virtue ethics and care ethics. So what is the relationship between Murdoch’s works of fiction and her philosophical writings? Why did she believe that “nothing in life is of any value except the attempt to be virtuous”? And given that, why did she think human life has no purpose? Josh and Ray explore Murdoch’s life and thought with Eva-Maria Düringer from the University of Tübingen, author of Evaluating Emotions. Part of our Wise Women series, generously supported by a grant from the National Endowment for the Humanities.