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Aurélien Tchouaméni: Real Madrid star on pressure, fame, playing for the world’s biggest club, Vinícius Jr’s leadership, racism on the pitch, contract talks, NFL influence, overcoming global defeat, France’s 2022 World Cup miss, and his 2026 mindset.

Apr 17, 2026
Aurélien Tchouaméni, Real Madrid and France midfielder known for his defensive steel, discusses life at the highest level. He talks about handling pressure and fame, playing alongside stars like Vinícius Jr and his leadership, confronting racism on the pitch, coping with the 2022 World Cup pain, and his mindset heading into 2026.
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ANECDOTE

Vini Led Team Through Racism Incident

  • During Vinícius Jr.'s racism incident, Real Madrid players debated stopping the match but Vini chose to continue and promised action afterward.
  • Tchouaméni said the squad's on-pitch talk and Vini's leadership guided their decision.
ADVICE

Use Collective Action To Force Change On Racism

  • Consider stronger collective actions like stopping matches to force institutional change on racism.
  • Tchouaméni suggested stopping play would have created a bigger uproar and possibly sped reforms.
ANECDOTE

Young Starter In 2022 World Cup Final Shaped Him

  • At 22, Aurélien unexpectedly started in the 2022 World Cup after injuries to leaders, learning the tournament's intensity.
  • He called the final the craziest ever, felt the pain of losing, but viewed it as shaping his future drive.
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