We found an abundance of happiness, laughter and intrigue with podcaster/journalist/MLM expert Jane Marie and cancelled/uncanceled guest comedian Carmen "Car Man" Christopher. We talked about Jane's book "Selling the Dream: The Billion-Dollar Industry Bankrupting Americans," Carmen's special "Live from the Windy City," YOUR stories about MLMs making lives worse, and Trump's possibly illegal two dollar bill scam. And we had another successful Dopp o' the Mornin' segment.

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