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Bill Shorten on his random, oblique reference in the Epstein files

Feb 5, 2026
Bill Shorten, former federal opposition leader and now Vice‑Chancellor of the University of Canberra, reacts to a weird mention of him in the Epstein files. He discusses surprising texts linking Steve Bannon and Clive Palmer, how big-money ads affected the 2019 campaign, risks of foreign influence, and the role of tech, misinformation and electoral safeguards.
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ANECDOTE

Bannon Bragged About 2019 Election Role

  • Bill Shorten recounts being surprised that Steve Bannon boasted to Jeffrey Epstein about influencing the 2019 Australian election via Clive Palmer's ad spend.
  • Shorten says Palmer's late $83 million ad blitz hurt his campaign and he had no prior knowledge of Bannon's involvement.
ANECDOTE

Palmer's Changing Story On A 3am Call

  • Shorten describes Clive Palmer's shifting statements about whether he spoke to Steve Bannon, first denying then recalling a 3 a.m. call.
  • Shorten expresses scepticism that Palmer would genuinely forget such a call given his attention to his spending and critics.
INSIGHT

Digital Misinformation Skewed Campaigns

  • Shorten notes the alt-right were better organised digitally and Labour were naive about online misinformation.
  • He highlights algorithms and targeted ads spreading false claims like 'third trimester abortions' to sway voters.
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