
ChinaTalk Second Breakfast: Putin's Drones, SecWar Patton, Wargaming, Finding Subs
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Oct 6, 2025 Bryan Clark, a former U.S. submariner and defense analyst at the Hudson Institute, dives into the evolving landscape of modern warfare. He discusses the strategic implications of Russia's drone attacks on NATO and debates the merits of long-range strike capabilities for Ukraine. Bryan also sheds light on the goals of wargaming in military planning, the importance of logistics over warrior culture, and the challenges of modern subs in detection and engagement. AI's role in sonar detection and the intricacies of electronic warfare are also explored, offering a nuanced view of current military dynamics.
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Heroic Myth vs. Industrial Reality
- Patton-style warrior ethos is culturally resonant but obscures the off-screen logistics and industrial strengths that win wars.
- Hollywood focuses on discipline and swagger while real victory needed air cover, ammunition, and supply chains.
Use Wargames To Expose Trade-Offs
- Use wargames to force decision-makers to confront trade-offs and path dependencies before crises occur.
- Design games to test processes that deliver complex outcomes like trained operators or new platforms.
Design Modular Wargames
- Build modular, extensible wargame mechanics so new technologies plug in without wrecking balance.
- Reuse methodologies iteratively to carry lessons from one game into the next.




