
The Eric Metaxas Show #54 - Pastor Travis Johnson
Feb 9, 2026
Travis Johnson, pastor and author who leads Pathway Church and global mission work, discusses bold, public Christianity. He recounts a teenage turning point about Jesus’ deity. Conversation covers standing firm after a city council prayer controversy, how opposition fueled revival, and mission work in Cambodia and the Congo.
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Teenage Quarry Conversion
- Travis Johnson describes a 17-year-old moment wrestling with Jehovah's Witness claims about Jesus while swimming in a rock quarry.
- He studied original texts, concluded Jesus rose from the dead, and committed his life to Christ.
Crowds Versus Discipleship
- Travis argues many evangelical churches have 'rounded off the corners' to build crowds instead of disciples.
- That creates a fog in the pew where believers aren't truly discipled by the church.
Follow Closely Or Fade Away
- Following Jesus 'at a distance' leads to deconstruction and a respectable but shallow faith, Travis warns.
- Courage is contagious: Peter's boldness after the resurrection transformed the disciples and spread the gospel.

