The Eric Metaxas Show

#54 - Pastor Travis Johnson

Feb 9, 2026
Travis Johnson, pastor and author who leads Pathway Church and global mission work, discusses bold, public Christianity. He recounts a teenage turning point about Jesus’ deity. Conversation covers standing firm after a city council prayer controversy, how opposition fueled revival, and mission work in Cambodia and the Congo.
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ANECDOTE

Teenage Quarry Conversion

  • Travis Johnson describes a 17-year-old moment wrestling with Jehovah's Witness claims about Jesus while swimming in a rock quarry.
  • He studied original texts, concluded Jesus rose from the dead, and committed his life to Christ.
INSIGHT

Crowds Versus Discipleship

  • Travis argues many evangelical churches have 'rounded off the corners' to build crowds instead of disciples.
  • That creates a fog in the pew where believers aren't truly discipled by the church.
INSIGHT

Follow Closely Or Fade Away

  • Following Jesus 'at a distance' leads to deconstruction and a respectable but shallow faith, Travis warns.
  • Courage is contagious: Peter's boldness after the resurrection transformed the disciples and spread the gospel.
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