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#43 Classic episode - Daniel Ellsberg on the institutional insanity that maintains nuclear doomsday machines

Jan 18, 2022
In this engaging conversation, Daniel Ellsberg, a former US defense analyst and author of "The Doomsday Machine," dives deep into the chilling reality of nuclear weapons. He discusses the dangers posed by automated systems like the Soviet Union's Dead Hand, which can trigger massive retaliation without human intervention. Ellsberg calls for greater transparency in military policies and critiques the legacy of Cold War mentalities. He emphasizes the need for nuclear disarmament and collaborative engagement to avert catastrophe, making a compelling case for rethinking global security.
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Profiting from the Doomsday Machine

  • Corporations profit from selling weapons, creating a system with short-run material benefits from the doomsday machine.
  • This profit motive, present in both the US and Russia, fuels arms production and increases the risk of nuclear war.
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False Alarm and Launch on Warning

  • The greatest nuclear risk is a false alarm triggering a launch on warning, leading to full-scale war.
  • This risk is amplified by vulnerable ICBMs, creating an incentive to launch before they are destroyed.
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ICBMs: Profit over Protection

  • The US and Russia possess enough submarine missiles to destroy each other, even if land-based ICBMs are lost.
  • Despite this, ICBMs are maintained for profit and to reassure allies in a protection racket.
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