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[State of RL/Reasoning] IMO/IOI Gold, OpenAI o3/GPT-5, and Cursor Composer — Ashvin Nair, Cursor

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Dec 30, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Ashvin Nair, a researcher with a rich background in robotics and AI, shares his journey from OpenAI to Cursor. He highlights the transition from robotic challenges to the quicker impact of language models. Ashvin delves into the economic dynamics of LLMs, the importance of co-designing models and products, and the complexities of continual learning. He also explores the limitations of scaling and the need for specialized models, offering insights into the future of coding automation and the evolving landscape of AI.
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Agents Outpace Robotics Economically

  • Ashvin argues LLM agents will create vastly more economic value earlier than robotics.
  • He estimates agent markets could be trillion-dollar while robotics remains smaller and harder to scale reliably.

Benchmark Overfitting In RL Research

  • RL research from 2017–2022 overfit benchmarks by adding many tunable knobs.
  • Simple, less-tunable techniques and scaling often generalize better than complex academic tricks.

Scaling Plus Product Context

  • Scaling is continuing but with different emphases: co-design and product-context matter more.
  • ML intelligence isn't always the bottleneck; bringing real-world context into products is.
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