#743: Dr. Jane Goodall and Cal Fussman

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Jun 4, 2024

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Cal Fussman

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Jane Goodall

Dr. Jane Goodall, renowned primatologist and founder of the Jane Goodall Institute, shares her incredible experiences gaining the trust of chimpanzees and highlights their complex behaviors and personalities. She discusses themes of compassion and the lessons they offer about human nature. Cal Fussman, a celebrated author and speaker, talks about the significance of curiosity and connection in storytelling and interviewing, drawing from his own transformative experiences. Together, they inspire listeners to recognize the power of small actions and foster hope amid challenges.

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ANECDOTE

Old Man and Mark Cusano

Old Man, a chimpanzee, saved Mark Cusano from an attack by other chimps after Cusano fell and startled Old Man's infant.
This incident demonstrates chimpanzee compassion, highlighting their capacity to help humans in need.

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Apathy vs. Hope

Apathy poses the biggest threat to our future because it hinders action needed to preserve the planet.
Hope is crucial to overcome apathy and feelings of helplessness.

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ANECDOTE

Mr. H and Gary Haun

Mr. H, a stuffed chimpanzee with a tail, was given to Goodall by Gary Haun, a blind magician.
Haun's resilience, despite going blind at 21, inspires Goodall and embodies the indomitable human spirit.

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This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #421 "Dr. Jane Goodall — The Legend, The Lessons, The Hope" and episode #145 "The Interview Master: Cal Fussman and the Power of Listening."

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Timestamps:

[00:00] Start

[04:48] Notes about this supercombo format.

[05:51] Enter Dr. Jane Goodall.

[06:19] Connecting with Louis Leakey and becoming his secretary.

[09:43] Gaining acceptance among chimpanzees.

[13:09] Primate personalities, compassion, and the story of Old Man saving Marc Cusano.

[17:34] Observations of chimpanzee compassion and violence, and inferences about human nature.

[19:19] Explaining variance in chimpanzee attitudes toward dominance.

[20:55] Cultivating hope to overcome apathy.

[26:19] Mr. H, Gary Haun, the indomitable human spirit, and overcoming adversity.

[29:37] Dr. Goodall's billboard.

[31:20] Enter Cal Fussman.

[32:56] Quincy Jones' unique book signing practice.

[34:19] Cal's pivotal childhood moment.

[38:55] Deconstructing the skill of asking great questions.

[42:43] Contrasting interview styles from different life stages.

[48:25] University of Missouri Journalism's role in Cal's career.

[52:24] Drinking with Hunter S. Thompson and Johnny Depp.

[55:45] Cal's start in international travel (and my family trip to Iceland).

[1:06:34] How a single question got Cal six months of lodging.

[1:14:45] Common mistakes and lessons learned about the art of asking questions.

[1:23:30] Honing the ability to tell stories.

[1:27:11] A life-changing event at the end of Cal's travels.

[1:31:43] Perfecting the conversational interview.

[1:33:43] Speaking at Summit at Sea.

[1:46:15] What Mikhail Gorbachev taught Cal about the art of the interview.

[1:55:45] Boxing Julio César Chávez.

[2:30:31] Why Alex Banayan and George Foreman define success for Cal.

[2:42:58] Most gifted books.

[2:49:47] Favorite documentaries and movies.

[2:55:37] Cal's billboard.

[2:56:08] Advice to Cal's 30-year-old self.

[2:59:05] Overcoming writer's block with Harry Crews' advice.

[3:18:56] Parting thoughts.

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