#375: Music & Ministry After Hillsong With Matt Crocker

Nov 5, 2025

Matt Crocker, worship leader and songwriter known for co-writing Oceans and other Hillsong hits, shares stories from punk drumming roots to studio experiments. He talks about overcoming insecurity, staying childlike in leading, making his solo project Interlude, and favorite songs he helped create. Short, candid conversations about creative risk, sonic exploration, and life after Hillsong.

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INSIGHT

Make Worship That Also Feels Like Art

Matt intentionally made Interlude as an album that cares about sonics, melody, and lyrics rather than only utility for church singing.
He wanted artfulness: songs that flow, unique sounds, and lyrics he labored to improve without losing worship focus.

INSIGHT

Hold Childlike Wonder And Mature Stewardship

Matt aims to remain childlike and fearless in worship leading while gaining maturity in reading a room.
He balances openness to the Holy Spirit with treating the platform as holy rather than careless or performance-driven.

ADVICE

Stop Comparing Your Calling To Others

Avoid comparison in creative ministry; focus on what God uniquely put on your life instead of imitating others.
Use your experience and gifts to serve where you're called rather than chasing others' benchmarks.

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Topics Covered:

Matt’s early years of punk band drumming
How Matt connected with Joel Houston and Hillsong Church
Staying childlike as a worship leader
How to overcome insecurity
The making of Matt’s first solo project
Matt’s favorite Hillsong song he’s been a part of

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Interlude by Matt Crocker
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