Ep 324 | D&C 60-63, Come Follow Me 2025 (June 9-15)

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Jun 4, 2025

This conversation dives into the complexities of revelation and the challenges faced by early missionaries. Listeners explore the metaphor of the Missouri River as both chaos and divine warning. The healing miracle of Elsa Johnson by Joseph Smith showcases faith's transformational power. There's a rich discussion on the pursuit of Zion, emphasizing personal integrity and the necessity of repentance. Insightful contrasts between spiritual states—telestial, terrestrial, and celestial—further illuminate the journey of faith and divine guidance.

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INSIGHT

Ancient Cosmos & Chaos Waters

Ancient cosmology depicts the world as a sacred space surrounded by chaotic waters.
Biblical imagery of waters symbolizes both danger (chaos) and life (holiness, cleansing), reflecting layered meanings in scripture.

ADVICE

Read Scripture Symbolically

Avoid interpreting scripture too literally when the Lord uses symbolic language.
Understand figures like the "waters" in section 61 as symbolic to gain spiritual insights.

ANECDOTE

Elsa Johnson’s Healing Miracle

Elsa Johnson's arm was miraculously healed by Joseph Smith, witnessed by several including Ezra Booth.
Despite witnessing miracles, Ezra Booth later left the church and criticized it, showing faith can waver.

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(00:00) As you seek the Lord’s help in your life, recognize that there can be contraries regarding revelation and getting answers to prayer.
(06:59) Sometimes you leave the 99 to save the one and sometimes you leave the one to save the 99.
(13:58) The missionaries struggle on the Missouri River and Ezra Booth has trouble enduring adversity well.
(18:38) Another way to read “the congregations of the wicked.”
(20:10) Jesus is able to make each and every one of us holy and celestial. We can become the people He is expecting us to be.
(26:48) W.W. Phelps sees a daylight vision of the destroyer upon the face of the waters. Ancient cosmology provides layered meanings of the waters surrounding Zion as an ancient symbol of passage.
(43:06) Blue and white marble in the temple complex as a representation of the Sea of Chaos surrounding ordered space.
(46:44) Why don’t missionaries swim?
(50:02) The road to Zion is filled with challenges. The historical connection to sign seekers and Ezra Booth’s experience.
(53:15) Philo Dibble’s account of Elsa Johnson’s miracle and Ezra Booth’s response.
(1:00:31) Unrepentant adulterers cannot exist in Zion.
(1:04:53) Liars must repent.
(1:07:39) The tabernacle as a type for leaving telestial and terrestrial ground and entering into the celestial. We must be guided by the the Holy Ghost, as were the wise virgins.
(1:09:59) To dress and to keep the garden as it relates to our quest to follow Jesus.
(1:15:18) We should strive to see the big picture of God’s purposes in an eternal perspective.
(1:18:28) Interpretations of taking the Lord’s name in vain.
(1:27:09) Transfiguration of the earth and the Cosmic Covenant.
(1:30:00) Blessed are the dead that die in the Lord.
(1:33:16) Our faith in Christ does not take away our challenges, but He is with us. Christians were warned to leave to Pella.

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