The Colin and Samir Show

How TBPN Built the Luxury Brand of the Creator Economy

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Jan 28, 2026
John Coogan, co‑host of TBPN and veteran video producer who builds TV‑style live shows. Jordi Hayes, co‑host who leads commercial strategy and ad innovation for a daily tech and business program. They discuss running a three‑hour live format, their anti‑scale niche strategy, short daily host reads as ad products, building production efficiency, and treating sponsors like season partners.
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INSIGHT

Value Engagement Over Raw Reach

  • Measure the niche audience by minutes per month across touchpoints, not raw reach.
  • A small core of highly engaged viewers can be more valuable than mass one-off views.
ADVICE

Stay Niche On Purpose

  • Choose and defend a clear niche and resist chasing broad virality.
  • Prioritize content that serves your core audience even if it limits total view counts.
ADVICE

Optimize For The Show First

  • Build a show as the product, not a pivoting company empire.
  • Ask whether new projects make the core show better before adding time-consuming ventures.
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