Find The Outside 8.08: This Reality, That Reality, and the One We Choose to Live In
On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday reflect on two recent conversations with Meg Buzzi and Chris Keevil and follow the threads that emerged long after the recording stopped. What unfolds is a wide-ranging, deeply human dialogue about courage, leadership, imagination, and how we decide what really matters in turbulent times.
They explore the tension between reflection and action, the false choice between staying informed and staying well, and what it means to make a “true move” when certainty is impossible. Along the way, they consider the role of escapism, joy, embodiment, and imagination - not as avoidance, but as essential capacities for resilience, empathy, and meaningful action.
This episode is an invitation to question whose reality we are centering, to resist being hijacked by fear or outrage, and to remember that tending to what gives life and meaning is not separate from changing the world - it’s foundational to it.
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- Meet Meg Buzzi
- Read Meg’s new book, “The In-Between”
- Learn about Meg’s company - fixchr
- Meet Chris Keevil
- Canoe Kayak Canada
- Dee Hock, Chaordic Organizations
- Sandpiper Ventures
- Oliver Burkeman – Author of Four Thousand Weeks
- Arawana Hayashi, Founder of Social Presencing Theater
- Dr. Martin Shaw, Mythologist and Storyteller
- Lucas Jones, Author of I Still Believe in Miracles
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