Deviate

Time is your truest form of wealth (and travel helps you embrace your riches)

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Jan 8, 2026
Chris Hutchins, a podcaster and optimization enthusiast, dives deep into the concept of 'Time Wealth'—prioritizing rich experiences over possessions. He shares insights on how travel can align with family goals and values. Discover the benefits of slow travel, especially with kids, and why visiting local markets can enrich your journey. Chris also emphasizes the importance of traveling light and balancing technology on the road for a more immersive experience. Get ready to embrace gratitude through exploration!
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ANECDOTE

Sweaty Bus Inspired Lyft

  • Chris Hutchins recounts a co-founder riding a slow African bus that inspired Zimride, later Lyft.
  • Rolf and Chris use this to show humble travel moments can spark big, creative ideas.
INSIGHT

Smaller Net Worth, Bigger Time Wealth

  • Prioritizing net worth can unintentionally trade time together for future security.
  • Rolf suggests re-evaluating goals to favor smaller wealth and more present-moment family time.
ADVICE

Walk Until The Day Becomes Interesting

  • Walk a neighborhood with no strict agenda until your day becomes interesting.
  • Seek quotidian places like markets and haircuts to access authentic local life instead of only sightseeing.
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