Animal Spirits Podcast

Talk Your Book: Will the Bubble Get Bigger?

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Nov 17, 2025
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Michael Arone
Michael Arone, Chief Investment Strategist at State Street Investment Management, shares his insights on macroeconomic trends. He discusses how persistent government deficits and monetary policy have become tailwinds for risk assets. Arone delves into the implications of rising government debt on long-term rates and the reasons behind the recent drop in yields. The conversation covers the potential risks and rewards of the AI boom, market concentration, and the historic cycles of bubbles, leaving listeners with a cautiously optimistic outlook on investing.
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Rising Sovereign Supply Raises Yield Risk

  • A global increase in sovereign issuance can push long-term yields higher and raises the discount rate for assets.
  • Arone flags higher long-term rates as a real risk that would hurt asset valuations.
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Yields Fall When Growth Expectations Cool

  • Falling yields this year reflect weaker growth expectations and some lower term premium, not just policy shifts.
  • Arone stresses yields move with growth, inflation and term premium dynamics.
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Labor Tightness Needs Fewer New Jobs

  • Labor market can stay tight even with fewer job gains because labor supply and demand are both slowing.
  • Arone cites immigration, demographics, and AI as structural forces reducing required new jobs to keep unemployment low.
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