PBD Podcast Former CIA Agent Mike Baker | PBD Podcast | EP 135
Mar 16, 2022
Mike Baker, a former CIA covert operations officer with 17 years of experience, shares his insights on U.S. intelligence dynamics. He discusses the rivalry between the CIA and FBI, the quirks of training cats as spies, and the complexities of privatizing federal agencies. Baker also touches on geopolitical issues like Iran's historical ties to the CIA and the evolving energy market influenced by Saudi Arabia. The conversation includes humorous anecdotes alongside serious reflections on national security and congressional pay raises.
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FBI and CIA Relationship
- Patrick Bet-David asks about the relationship between the FBI and CIA.
- Mike Baker explains that there was tension, especially before 9/11, due to territorial disputes over counterterrorism activities.
Essential Federal Agencies
- Patrick Bet-David asks which federal agencies could be eliminated.
- Mike Baker argues against eliminating core agencies like CIA, FBI, and DEA, citing their essential roles.
Privatizing Security in Iraq
- Tyler asks about privatizing government organizations like the FBI or CIA.
- Mike Baker shares his experience in Iraq, where private security contractors initially created a "shit show" due to a lack of standards.
