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Feb 7, 2026 
Ariel Cohen, co-founder and CEO of Navan, led the travel and expense AI platform through rapid AI product builds and a recent IPO. He discusses why Navan went public, building a custom customer-service AI called Ava, the case for verticalized agentic platforms, product-led adoption over distribution, and the personal tradeoffs of running a public company.
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Early ChatGPT Demo Triggered AI Build
- Ariel recalls seeing an early ChatGPT demo and panicking that Navan must build its own AI platform immediately.
- That paranoia led Navan to create an internal AI platform powering many of its products today.
Public Markets Misread Hybrid Consumption Models
- The market misprices Navan by trying to fit it into SaaS or travel incumbents only.
- Ariel argues Navan's consumption model and go-to-market economics require a longer horizon to appreciate.
Ava Shined During Major Airport Shutdown
- During a major airport shutdown, Navan's AI chatbot Ava handled 55% of chats and maintained a 16-minute worst-case call wait time.
- Ariel uses this event to demonstrate Navan's AI-driven operational advantage in crises.