
Future of Education Podcast S2E293: Fixing Education at the State Level, Part 2: From Policy to Practice
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Jan 3, 2026 Join Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt, Secretary of Education Dan Hamlin, and Mary Cypress Metz from Tennessee's Collaborative on Reforming Education in a deep dive into state-level education reform. They explore the benefits of modular, parent-led education systems and the success of Swiss apprenticeship models. The conversation highlights the importance of aligning education with career pathways, modernizing outdated systems, and addressing literacy gaps in Tennessee. Don't miss insights on enhancing teacher recruitment and redefining student outcomes for a brighter future!
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Avoiding Risk To Protect GPA
- MacKenzie Price shares she avoided courses she liked to protect her GPA because she wanted to go to Stanford.
- She calls that mindset a travesty that discourages risk and exploration in students.
Modular, Student-Centered Schooling
- Modular, student-centered systems let families choose schools that match interests and learning styles.
- Kevin Stitt argues money should follow students to enable specialized schools and personalized learning.
European Apprenticeship Example
- Kevin Stitt describes visiting Switzerland and Germany to study apprenticeship models that start around age 15.
- He recounts a 15-year-old working at an architecture firm and later choosing university, illustrating early work-based learning.



