How to Fix It with John Avlon

S2 Ep64: Democrats Are at 26%. Why? (w/ Chris Swanson) | How to Fix It

Mar 1, 2026
Chris Swanson, a Michigan sheriff and Democratic gubernatorial hopeful known for 33 years in law enforcement and data-driven jail reform. He discusses why Democrats are stuck in the mid-20s and how the party lost working-class trust. He makes a law-and-order case for Democrats, outlines a program that cut jail violence 97%, and proposes practical affordability and labor-focused reforms to rebuild support.
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INSIGHT

Why Democrats Are Stuck In The Mid 20s

  • Democrats' low approval stems from siloed messaging and lack of a unifying leader that welcomes dissenting views.
  • Chris Swanson argues rebuilding a big-tent party requires speaking from the heart, showing work, and letting diverse people return without litmus tests.
ADVICE

Use Three Simple Pillars To Reconnect Voters

  • Reframe Democratic identity around three compact pillars: protect, serve, unify.
  • Swanson stresses listening, asking personal questions, and leading by example to restore trust and attract exhausted voters.
ANECDOTE

Transforming Jails With Education And Data

  • Swanson launched an education-first jail program September 8, 2020 to treat jails as places for rehabilitation not just punishment.
  • Ignite increased reading/math by 2.5 grades, cut jail violence 97%, and scaled to 40 sheriffs across 15 states.
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