
The Daily 'The Interview': Rutger Bregman Wants to Save Elites From Their Wasted Lives
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May 17, 2025 Rutger Bregman, a historian and writer known for his thought-provoking views on utopian ideas, challenges elite individuals to abandon self-centered ambitions for morally significant work. He discusses redefining success from wealth to impactful contributions and highlights the need for ambitious activism to address societal issues like the tobacco industry. Bregman emphasizes the importance of moral ambition, collective action, and using one's talents for the greater good, pushing for a cultural shift towards altruism and meaningful change.
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Moral Honesty and Clarity
- Intellectual honesty requires admitting when preferred moral or charitable approaches fail.
- Despite uncertainty, some moral truths like animal suffering are clear and demand action.
Build Diverse Coalitions
- To win moral struggles, build broad coalitions including unlikely allies despite disagreements.
- Successful abolitionists blended diverse groups like Quakers and evangelicals for powerful collective action.
Revive Big Utopian Visions
- Political discourse has shifted to mainly opposing what is wrong rather than advocating visionary goals.
- Bregman calls for reviving utopian visions like abolishing poverty and shorter work weeks enabled by technology.












