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#754: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ann Miura-Ko

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Jul 12, 2024

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Ann Miura-Ko

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Arnold Schwarzenegger

Arnold Schwarzenegger, an iconic bodybuilder and actor, shares how psychological warfare shaped his success in bodybuilding and Hollywood. Ann Miura-Ko, a prominent venture capitalist, reflects on her journey from shyness to mastering debate and negotiation. Together, they explore the importance of meditation in managing stress, the financial triumph behind the movie 'Twins,' and the value of mentorship and resilience in achieving personal and professional goals.

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Hollywood Strategy

Schwarzenegger never auditioned for movie roles, instead focusing on developing a unique niche.
What others saw as obstacles, like his size, became assets in his acting career.

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Real Estate Success

Schwarzenegger achieved financial success through real estate before his acting career took off.
This allowed him to be selective with roles and avoid financial vulnerability.

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Bricklaying Hustle

Arnold and Franco Columbu, to make money, started a bricklaying business.
Using their accents, they played 'good bricklayer/bad bricklayer' to negotiate higher prices.

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Exploring Meditative Practices Through Focus and Activity

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From Shyness to Debating Mastery

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Lessons of Excellence and Growth

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This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #60 "Arnold Schwarzenegger on Psychological Warfare" and #331 "Ann Miura-Ko — The Path from Shyness to World-Class Debater and Investor."

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Timestamps:

[00:00] Start

[04:08] Notes about this supercombo format.

[05:11] Enter Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[05:45] Where did Arnold develop his cast iron confidence?

[09:15] Mastering the psychological warfare of bodybuilding.

[13:58] Transferring this skill set to Hollywood.

[17:13] On making millions before becoming a movie star.

[19:48] Playing good bricklayer/bad bricklayer with Franco Columbu.

[24:41] How Twins came together.

[29:14] Meditation as one of many answers.

[35:47] Enter Ann-Miura Ko.

[36:14] Ann's childhood shyness.

[38:14] The Japanese phrase Ann used as a hostile kid in Michigan.

[40:20] How Ann overcame introversion.

[43:13] Ann's first solo stage speech.

[44:22] Why Ann continued with speech and debate.

[45:17] Ann's love for competition.

[46:54] Ann's extreme efforts for pizza.

[48:57] The catalyst for Ann's debate improvement.

[53:01] Debate competition format.

[56:56] Ann's recommended resources for improving debate skills.

[59:56] Observations on modern debate in politics and family.

[1:02:01] The most important lesson from Ann's debating years.

[1:04:50] Differences between debate and negotiation.

[1:06:53] Ann's father's journey to America and favorite phrase.

[1:10:29] Ann's world-class effort in menial job tasks.

[1:13:15] How a Yale tour led to shadowing a CEO.

[1:18:36] Ann's first job experience.

[1:20:20] Ann's favorite office supplies.

[1:21:32] Ann's cherished personal artifacts.

[1:23:06] Ann's experience teaching Mayfield Fellows at Stanford.

[1:24:42] A reading list and plans for Ann's Stanford startup class.

[1:28:05] Spotting artificial inflation in startup valuations.

[1:31:29] Why Ann changed her career path from medicine.

[1:34:45] What Ann knew about herself that her parents and test scores didn't.

[1:38:55] Ann's entry into venture capital and startup investing.

[1:39:29] An encounter with Steve Jobs.

[1:40:40] A job offer based on shared interests.

[1:44:40] Ann's experience at CRV during 9/11.

[1:47:55] The most expensive words in investing.

[1:48:16] First principles thinking and common leadership decisions.

[1:50:52] Winning strategy vs. strategy not to lose.

[1:51:59] Manifestations of hedging as a defensive strategy.

[1:53:46] The importance of focusing on your own race.

[1:55:47] A need for aggressiveness to win.

[1:56:38] How Ann met Mike Maples, Jr.

[1:59:26] Ann's PhD plans and shift to working with Mike.

[2:02:12] Ann's reaction to Mike's unusual proposition.

[2:06:40] Ann's hectic first year at Floodgate.

[2:08:41] Ann's real first name.

[2:09:21] Ann's struggles and coping mechanisms.

[2:14:56] Ann's superpowers.

[2:18:44] Thunder lizards and Ann's pursuit of them.

[2:20:20] Ann's view on AI and machine learning's impact.

[2:23:11] Philosophy exercises and real-world applications.

[2:24:50] Aligning collective and self-interests in problem-solving.

[2:27:08] Books Ann has gifted or reread most.

[2:29:09] A recent, game-changing purchase under $100.

[2:30:28] Ann's billboard.

[2:31:19] The meaning of Ann's Japanese name characters.

[2:32:19] Ann's online presence and Floodgate's name origin.

[2:34:58] Parting thoughts.

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