
Making Sense with Sam Harris #275 — The Russian War in Ukraine
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Mar 10, 2022 Garry Kasparov, chess grandmaster and fierce advocate for democracy, joins for a riveting discussion on Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. They dive into Putin's true ambitions and the troubling public sentiment shaped by Russian propaganda. Kasparov critiques the hesitancy of Western sanctions, urging stronger measures to uphold democracy. The conversation also tackles the controversial notions of a no-fly zone and regime change, weighing their risks against the backdrop of potential global conflict.
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Putin's Public Declarations
- Putin openly expressed his desire for spheres of influence, harking back to the 19th century, at the Munich Security Conference.
- His actions in Georgia in 2008 and Crimea in 2014 further demonstrated these intentions but were met with insufficient response.
Historical Parallels
- Kasparov draws parallels between the world's response to Putin and the historical response to Hitler in the 1930s.
- He highlights how early warnings were dismissed, leading to a delayed and inadequate response to escalating threats.
Drivers of the Conflict
- Kasparov dismisses claims of NATO expansion and EU foreign policy as provocations for Putin's actions in Ukraine.
- He emphasizes Putin's long-standing imperial ambitions as the true driver of the conflict.

