
Flourishing Leaders Podcast Episode 43: “From Trauma to Antifragility: Restorative Storytelling, Police Wellness, and a Resilient Life” with David Berez
What does it mean to become stronger through what nearly broke you?
In Episode #43 of the Flourishing Leaders Podcast, Dr. Scott Parsons and Jason Viyar sit down with David Berez — retired police officer, Master Resiliency Trainer, and positive psychology practitioner — for a moving conversation on trauma, healing, antifragility, and the power of story.
David shares experiences from decades in emergency services, including his decision to respond to Ground Zero after 9/11, the hidden cumulative toll many first responders carry, and how meaning-making and support can transform suffering into post-traumatic growth.
We explore:
- Why flourishing leadership is a verb, not a title
- The difference between “resilience” and antifragility
- The “messy middle” of healing — and why isolation is so dangerous
- How restorative storytelling can turn pain into connection, wisdom, and culture change
- What it means to “earn your badge every day” — at work and at home
Content note: This episode includes discussion of trauma, post-traumatic stress, and suicidal ideation. Please take care while listening. If you’re in the U.S. and need immediate support, call or text 988 (Suicide & Crisis Lifeline). If you’re outside the U.S., please use your local crisis resources.
Guest: David Berez
David is a retired police officer (34 years in emergency services), Master Resiliency Trainer, and mental health advocate for law enforcement. He writes about wellness and restorative storytelling in policing and facilitates training for organizations including the Courageous Optimism© series. You can find out more about his work and connect with him here.
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