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Finding an Antidote to the Attention Economy - Jenny Odell - ND3689

Dec 24, 2025
Jenny Odell, a multidisciplinary artist and writer from Oakland, talks about resisting the attention economy that commodifies our focus. She shares her experience in an Oakland rose garden as a refuge from stress and discusses how birdwatching fosters deeper attention. Odell reflects on the story of a 'useless' tree to challenge conventional notions of value. She highlights the importance of community engagement and collective creativity over hyper-individualism, while also examining the implications of digital interaction versus meaningful dialogue.
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INSIGHT

All Attention Isn't Equal

  • The attention economy treats all attention as a single shallow metric and rewards reactive behavior.
  • Cultivating slower, different qualities of attention defends against this shallow, context-free mode.
ANECDOTE

Concert That Rewired Listening

  • A John Cage concert changed how Jenny listened to everyday sound and made ambient noise consciously audible.
  • She said the performance permanently expanded her attention to sound like a 'hearing aid' effect.
ANECDOTE

Bureau Of Suspended Objects

  • At Recology SF Jenny researched 200 discarded objects instead of making art from trash, creating the Bureau of Suspended Objects.
  • The exhibit forced visitors to slow down and consider each object's history and production processes.
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