Jonathan Wellum, CEO and CIO of Rocklinc, is a value investor focused on portfolio discipline and economic moats. He discusses what real moats look like in an AI-disrupted market. Short takes cover patience through volatility, where to invest in energy and electrification, why to avoid pure AI bets, valuation risks and the case for cash, hedges and gold.
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Focus On The Playing Field
AI will be disruptive but its full impact is unknown and will take months to play out.
Value investors must watch the playing field inside businesses, not just stock prices.
volunteer_activism ADVICE
Buy Businesses Hard To Replicate
Avoid businesses without strong switching costs, network effects, brand trust, regulatory or capital barriers.
Prefer firms with patent-protected specialized data and deep balance sheets that newcomers can't replicate quickly.
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Patiently Accumulating Trisura After A Shock
Rocklinc bought Trisura after a one-off $81M write-down created a buying opportunity.
They accumulated through volatility as the business kept growing and the stock later recovered strongly.
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Markets look strong, but history shows even great businesses can fall 50â60% when valuations reset. In this conversation, Jonathan Wellum of Rocklinc Investment Partners joins Maggie Lake to explain why investors shouldnât fool themselves about risk, especially as AI begins to disrupt business models across the economy.
Jonathan breaks down how value investors should focus on the playing fieldâwhatâs actually happening inside a businessârather than the short-term scoreboard of stock prices. He explains what real economic moats look like in the AI era, what matters in a business more than hype, and how to think about energy, electrification, and data center growth without betting on pure AI plays.
The conversation also covers todayâs stretched market valuations, why you should hold cash and hedges, why tariff risks may already be priced in, and why the structural drivers behind gold remain intact in a world of rising debt.
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Chapters:
1:31 â What Real Moats Look Like in the AI Era
7:30 â When Patience Pays: Holding Through Volatility
12:53 â Where to Invest in Energy & Electrification Without Chasing AI
17:17 â â Wealthion Golden Nugget: Valuations, Bubbles & the Risk of a Market Reset
21:56 â Are Tariff Risks Already Priced In?
25:34 â Why Goldâs Structural Tailwinds Arenât Going Away
28:40 â Rebalancing: The Discipline Most Investors Skip
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