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What can we learn from pathways implementation around the world? | Paul Herdman

Jun 25, 2025
In this discussion, Paul Herdman, CEO of the Rodel Foundation of Delaware, explores the transformative impact of pathways in education. He highlights how work-based learning and school-to-career transitions enhance student readiness. Herdman shares insights from global initiatives and emphasizes the importance of collaboration between schools and employers. He advocates for adaptive pathways that focus on equity, social-emotional skills, and preparing for an AI-driven job market, showcasing the need for scalable solutions in education.
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ANECDOTE

Delaware's Pathways Origin Story

  • Delaware launched its Pathways pilot after the 2007-2009 financial crisis to align education with workforce needs.
  • It grew from 27 students to 36,000 engaged statewide, covering 80% of high schoolers.
ANECDOTE

Global Pathways Study Experience

  • Paul spent nearly two years studying career pathway systems worldwide with OECD support.
  • He experienced an immersive global research environment from France to Australia and Canada.
INSIGHT

Opportunity in Career Pathways Shift

  • Countries focusing mainly on general education can gain by integrating career-connected learning.
  • Seamless career pathways present opportunities beyond pure academic routes.
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