For the latest SWH! podcast Ali spoke to singer/songwriter, composer, and arranger Debra Salem about 'In A Sma Room', the musical project inspired by the life and poetry of William Soutar. The two talk about what drew Debra to Soutar's work, how the project began, its theatrical roots, the involvement of writer Ajay Close, the incredible musicians Debra brought on board, adapting poetry to music, and a lot more. They also discuss Soutar's part in, and influence on, the Scottish literary renaissance of the early 20th century, and why he isn't better known. It's an entertaining and enlightening conversation which is a must for all music and poetry lovers.