General Intellect Unit

002 - Four Futures

Nov 15, 2017
A lively dive into four possible post-capitalist worlds inspired by Peter Frase. They compare abundance and scarcity, and whether equality or hierarchy wins out. Automation, ecological crisis, rent extraction, rationing and militarized enclaves get sharp attention. The conversation maps political choices and transitional paths without assuming any outcome.
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Technology Alone Doesn’t Decide Our Future

  • The future is not predetermined by technology; political choices shape which path automation and ecological crisis produce.
  • Shane Kilkelly emphasizes that automation and surveillance are often naturalized, but social relations determine outcomes.
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Four Futures Derived From Two Axes

  • Peter Frase's four futures hinge on two axes: equality versus hierarchy and abundance versus scarcity, with automation held constant.
  • Kyle Thompson summarizes the four outcomes as communism, rentism, socialism, and exterminism derived from those axes.
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Postwork Society Highlights Hidden Labor

  • In a communist abundance, overcoming wage labor lets people pursue meaningful activities like caregiving and creative work instead of survival.
  • Shane Kilkelly and Kyle Thompson stress that reproductive/emotional labor is real work often ignored in automation debates.
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