Pod Save America Trump's Secret Plan for a 3rd Term
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Oct 28, 2025 
In this discussion, guest Marc Elias, a prominent election attorney and founder of Democracy Docket, delves into the potential legal risks surrounding Donald Trump's talk of a third term. He asserts there's no constitutional loophole but warns of possible extra-legal tactics. The conversation also covers threats to the 2025 elections and how the DOJ's involvement could be manipulated. Elias emphasizes the need for public activism, civic engagement, and strong defenses to protect democracy against rising intimidation efforts.
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The Real Threat Is Extra‑Legal Action
- Marc Elias warns the real threat is violent or extra-constitutional action, not a legal loophole.
- He highlights January 6 as precedent for taking threats beyond legal channels seriously.
Watch And Document Federal Election Moves
- Monitor and document federal activity around local elections and call out abuses publicly.
- Use that record to prevent normalization and stop escalation into broader election interference.
Selective Monitoring Builds Future Pretext
- DOJ monitors in selective counties signal building a narrative for future broader deployment.
- That narrative can be used to challenge mail‑in and early voting ahead of 2026.