Latter Day Struggles 413: Complexity of Clark Gilbert Call to the Q12
In this episode Val is joined by Jana Riess, author and researcher of the LDS spectrum of experience and Jason Bergman, former BYU professor & faculty member. Together they discuss the many facets of the Clark Gilbert call to the Q12 of the LDS church.
In this conversation Jason contrasts his experience on the BYU faculty both before and during Gilbert's leadership and candidly shares the painful and life altering impact Gilbert's fervor for loyalty and conformity of LDS orthodoxy had on him and his career.
They also explore the possibility that well-intended loyalty to tradition can actually fracture lives, families, and even the potential good that churches can do in the long run--especially when loyalty to old ways end up getting in the way of further light and truth hiding in plain sight.
Join them for another bold, courageous, and candid conversation inviting spiritual growth in and around the LDS church.
Jana's Salt Lake Tribune Article
Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome and Guests
00:36 Why This Topic Matters
01:55 Jana Riess Research
03:42 Jason BYU Background
07:20 Mixed Reactions Online
12:11 Why Gilbert Stands Out
17:27 Culture Warrior Defined
27:12 Polarization and Autonomy
35:53 BYU Orthodoxy Crackdown
40:43 Honor Code Turmoil Timeline
43:58 Choosing to Leave BYU
44:56 Faculty Fear and Silence
47:15 Big Tent Tensions
49:14 Incognito Faculty Support
52:41 Loyalty Oath Explained
58:33 Surveillance and Dismissals
01:00:35 Hiring and Worthiness Filters
01:02:52 Growth Versus Orthodoxy
01:07:31 Data on Same Sex Marriage
01:10:02 What BYU Lost
01:17:44 Evolution One Funeral
01:20:46 Gerontocracy and Mini Me
01:22:07 Final Thanks and Farewell
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