
GTM Live The Ugly Truth About Pipeline (Real Talk for GTM Teams Running on Broken Systems)
May 22, 2025
Carolyn Dilks, co-founder of Passetto, dives into the intricacies of go-to-market team struggles with Nick Flamini. They debunk the myth that more BDRs equal more pipeline and tackle the true causes of go-to-market bloat, emphasizing the need for better data and cross-functional alignment. Carolyn discusses how trust, not just volume, is vital in outbound efforts. The conversation stresses the importance of collaboration between finance and marketing to achieve sustainable growth and effective decision-making, providing a fresh perspective on pipeline management.
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BDR Team Growth Stalls Company
- One client with a 15-person BDR team believed 90% of revenue was BDR-sourced despite inconsistent new logo growth.
- Their BDR team lacked strategy, just making high-volume calls without prioritization, stalling growth.
AI Can't Replace Human Connection
- AI boosts outbound volume but may reduce connection rates due to lack of trust and personalization.
- Human connection remains crucial in sales despite AI’s expansion in tasks like prospecting.
Personal Outreach Beats AI Spam
- The podcast hosts connected personally to arrange a show instead of using AI or spam outreach.
- Their approach achieved a 30% response rate, far surpassing typical AI-driven cold outreach success.

