On with Kara Swisher

Survivors Speak Out: Taking On the ‘Epstein Class’

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Mar 9, 2026
Liz Stein, human trafficking specialist who aids survivors; Jess Michaels, survivor and creator of Sexual Assault First Aid and the With You Too app; Dani Bensky, former survivor turned dance educator focused on youth safety. They discuss how survivors united for transparency, the DOJ files' chaotic release and its harms, who helps or hinders accountability, and how elite power shields wrongdoing.
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ADVICE

Don’t Force Survivors To Publicly Name Alleged Enablers

  • Survivors advise pushing for transparency and legal reform rather than forcing survivors to name alleged co-conspirators publicly.
  • Liz urges using attorneys and DOJ pressure to investigate enablers instead of burdening survivors.
INSIGHT

PTSD From Abuse Causes Longterm Physical Decline

  • Long-term trauma produced severe physical and emotional costs like chronic illness and bedbound periods.
  • Jess and Liz describe PTSD lasting decades, limiting capacity and causing days stuck in bed even while advocating publicly.
ANECDOTE

Dani's Story Of Threats Shame And Nightmares

  • Dani recounts threats from Epstein about prostitution charges when she turned 18 and years of shame that silenced her.
  • She describes sleepwalking, nightmares, and walking the mansion halls in her sleep since speaking out.
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