Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice joins Find Out for a wide-ranging conversation on Donald Trump’s lawlessness and the real-world consequences of his actions—at home and abroad.

Trump’s disregard for the rule of law doesn’t stop at U.S. borders. Rice explains how attacking allies, undermining international agreements, and governing through chaos weakens America’s global standing and creates serious economic fallout. From market instability to higher costs for American workers and consumers, this episode connects foreign policy decisions directly to people’s everyday lives.

We break down why alliances matter, how trust fuels the global economy, and what happens when the United States becomes an unreliable partner. This is a clear-eyed look at the price of chaos—and why democracy and economic stability are deeply intertwined.

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Susan Rice on Trump’s Lawlessness, U.S. Allies, and the Economic Fallout