Revisiting our wonderful conversation with New York Times Bestselling author of "Jesus and John Wayne", Dr. Kristin Kobes Du Mez.

Author of the book "Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation", Dr. Kristin Kobes Du Mez joins the pod to talk about how white evangelicals redefined Biblical masculinity to fit the militant masculinity of secular icons like John Wayne, Teddy Roosevelt, and William Wallace. We talk about Mark Driscoll, Donald Trump, Beth Moore, egalitarianism and complementarianism in the church, Explo '72, Hal Lindsey's "Countdown to Armageddon", Kristin's favorite John Wayne film and more.

For more information on "Jesus and John Wayne" and Dr. Kristin Du Mez and to get a copy of the book, you can go here: https://kristindumez.com/books/jesus-and-john-wayne/

Get a copy of Kristin's first book "A New Gospel for Women: Katharine Bushnell and the Challenge of Christian Feminism" by going here: https://kristindumez.com/books/new-gospel-for-women/

Follow Kristin on Twitter: @kkdumez

Mentioned on the pod:

-Leah Payne, who is writing a book about Contemporary Christian Music. For more information on Dr. Payne and updates on her forthcoming book you can follow her on Twitter: @drleahpayne and view her bio on the Portland Seminary website: https://www.georgefox.edu/seminary/faculty/bio/leah-payne.html

-God's Forever Family: The Jesus People Movement in America by Larry Eskridge. You can get that book here: https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780195326451.001.0001/acprof-9780195326451

-Daniel Silliman's upcoming book Reading Evangelicals: How Christian Fiction Shaped a Culture and a Faith. Follow him at @danielsilliman

-Bill Bright and Campus Crusade for Christ: The Renewal of Evangelicalism in Postwar America by John G. Turner https://uncpress.org/book/9780807858738/bill-bright-and-campus-crusade-for-christ/

-The Armageddon Experience - One Way (Live at Explo '72) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MoYtlhdirw

-Check out Zach's music by going to: https://muzach.bandcamp.com

-Read Dave's occasional blogging at: www.dangeroushope.wordpress.com.

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Podcast music by Zach Malm

Logo by Zach Malm

Entertainment Tonight for Wednesday, January 28, 2026