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Ethereum is for Institutions: Danny Ryan Says Tokenization Isn't Enough

Jan 29, 2026
Danny Ryan, former Ethereum Foundation researcher and co-founder of Etherealize focused on institutional adoption. He explains why banks now have Ethereum FOMO. He contrasts simple tokenization with rewiring markets from first principles. He highlights where blockchain adds value, why privacy and ZK matter, and what institutional-grade onchain infrastructure needs.
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ANECDOTE

Founder Left Wall Street To Champion Ethereum

  • Grant left Wall Street after seeing decades of minimal tech upgrades and pitched institutional education and adoption.
  • That led to Etherealize focusing on championing Ethereum to institutions and building products for them.
INSIGHT

Tokenization Isn't The End Goal

  • Tokenizing assets alone isn't the highest-value play for institutions.
  • Rewiring markets from first principles on-chain unlocks automation, efficiency, and new financial products.
INSIGHT

Esoteric Markets Offer Biggest Gains

  • Equities are relatively efficient and gain less from on-chain migration than esoteric markets.
  • Fixed income and gated credit markets have huge inefficiencies that blockchains can meaningfully fix.
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