The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant

The Emotion Few Talk About, But Many Feel

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Apr 23, 2026
A deep dive into shame, humiliation, and why both still shape life from school to work to social media. They explore how public belittling can spiral into anger and violence, why self-protective habits backfire, and how empathy changes the dynamic. The conversation also turns to imposter feelings, cultural pressure, and the fear of becoming irrelevant.
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ANECDOTE

A Teacher Used Humiliation As Motivation

  • Brené Brown recalls a fourth-grade teacher publicly spelling out “S-T-U-P-I-D” on a girl’s unnamed paper to force change.
  • In debrief, the teacher said she feared the child would be held back, revealing how adults use humiliation when they lack better tools.
INSIGHT

Shame Is Built Into Many Social Systems

  • Brené Brown says shame is not just interpersonal; it is embedded in marketing, media, and workplace systems that first wound worth and then sell relief.
  • She argues industries profit by making people feel unlovable, then offering the sweater, beer, or cosmetic that supposedly fixes it.
ADVICE

Use Empathy To Break Shame Open

  • Use empathy to disrupt shame, because shame expands in silence, secrecy, and judgment but cannot survive being met with connection.
  • Brené Brown treats empathy as a hostile environment for shame: naming it and being seen by someone trustworthy stops its spread.
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