This is an after-hours podcast episode…Welcome to the twilight zone… well, 4:12pm. Expect more butter-dish chat, non-traditional ratatouille, neutering your pets (and your ex), and there's an accent warning...

Plus, Steve Crawshaw, journalist and former UK director at Human Rights Watch, joins us to discuss his book Prosecuting the Powerful: War Crimes and the Battle for Justice.

Our next book club pick is 'A Town Like Alice' by Nevil Shute.

Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.

You can listen to our 'I'm in the cupboard on Christmas' playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1awQioX5y4fxhTAK8ZPhwQ

If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio

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Podcast Producers: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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A life of letting them dangle