Warwick Sabin — president and CEO of Deep South Today, the nonprofit news network that includes the Pulitzer Prize-winning Mississippi Today, New Orleans' Verite News, and Lafayette's The Current — joins the Chuck Toddcast to discuss what may be the most promising model for saving local journalism in America. Sabin, a former three-term Arkansas state legislator and publisher of the Oxford American magazine, explains how he's building a network of nonprofit newsrooms across the Deep South from scratch, starting with Mississippi Today — the first nonprofit newsroom in Mississippi, now the largest in the state — and expanding into Louisiana and soon Arkansas. He describes the wholesale implosion of the old newspaper model, using the Jackson Clarion-Ledger's decline as a case study, and argues that the nonprofit approach has a critical advantage: starting fresh means avoiding the crushing legacy costs that buried traditional papers, and all revenue gets reinvested directly into the news product. They make the case that service journalism — covering schools, local government, youth sports — is what creates the trust and audience that makes the "sexy" investigative work possible, pointing to the fact that local journalists in his network helped exonerate a man on death row in Mississippi.
The conversation turns to what makes local journalism viable and essential in 2026 and beyond. Sabin argues that human connection to journalists will be the defining differentiator in the age of AI — people won't trust reporters who aren't part of their local community — while acknowledging that AI tools can make reporting dramatically more efficient. He discusses using local and youth sports as a community bonding agent in an era where it's one of the few areas where communities can avoid politics, notes that Mississippi produces terrific writers who need platforms, and emphasizes that having video and audio components is now critical for any news operation. They explore the potential for rebuilding a national network of nonprofit newspapers, discuss which communities are ripe for expansion and make the case that local journalism should be treated as a civic institution deserving of public-private partnership. Sabin's model is free to access, civic-minded, and designed to help citizens survive and thrive in their communities — exactly what Local News Day on April 9th is designed to champion.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Warwick Sabin joins the Chuck ToddCast
01:30 Creating the first nonprofit newsroom in Mississippi
04:30 What went wrong with the Jackson Clarion-Ledger?
06:30 There’s been a wholesale implosion of the old newspaper model
08:00 Potential for rebuilding a national network of newspapers?
09:15 In small markets, newspapers have to be hyper efficient
11:15 Service journalism is what creates the opportunity for “sexy” journalism
12:15 Local journalists exonerated a man on death row in Mississippi
13:15 Using local and youth sports as a community bond
15:00 Local sports is the one area where communities can avoid politics
16:30 Mississippi produces terrific writers
17:30 Having a video/audio component for reporting is critical
19:00 Human connection to journalists will be important in age of AI
21:00 People won’t trust journalists that aren’t part of their local community
22:45 AI tools can make reporting easier and more efficient
24:15 What does a community need to have to become part of your network?
25:30 Arkansas Democrat Gazette weathered the storm better than most
27:30 Arkansas is in need of a local news network
28:45 Bill Clinton’s election kept Walmart’s headquarters in Arkansas
31:00 Northwest Arkansas produced some of America’s biggest companies
34:00 How much do you factor in local resources when launching a new paper?
36:00 What other places have you looked at to expand the network?
38:00 Model is doing civic minded journalism that is free to access
39:00 Starting from scratch, avoiding legacy costs is a huge boon
41:30 All the revenue they generate gets invested back into the news product
43:00 Newspapers & local journalism are a civic institution
45:00 Local journalism should be a public/private partnership
46:00 It is incredibly difficult to deliver straight news in smaller communities
46:45 What do you hope to get out of Local News Day?
49:30 Local journalism can help citizens survive and thrive in their communities
50:30 Is print dead, or is there a viable path for it?
52:15 What has the gutting of local & public radio meant for Mississippi?
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