Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

Ep. 617 – Your Brain On Art with Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross

Oct 27, 2025
Susan Magsamen, founder of the International Arts + Mind Lab, and Ivy Ross, a designer and wellness advocate, delve into the transformative power of art on the brain. They discuss how redefining art as personal expression can rewire neural pathways through creativity. Music’s role in fostering connection and community is highlighted, along with the importance of play in the creative process. They emphasize integrating art into daily life, ritualizing creativity, and how these practices contribute to well-being and personal growth.
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ANECDOTE

A Designer Childhood Taught How To See

  • Ivy describes growing up in a designer home where her father taught her to "see" differently and she learned flow through music.
  • That early immersion led her from metalsmithing to global design leadership.
INSIGHT

Artists Knew Effects Before Science Did

  • The salon revealed artists long knew arts' healing power before science validated it.
  • Susan and Ivy position cross-sector collaboration as solution science for complex problems.
ANECDOTE

Tuning Forks And Sound Research Changed Anxiety

  • Ivy demonstrates tuning forks and studied a French musician bombarding cancer cells with sound to find resonant frequencies.
  • She traveled to France to learn how vibration can physically affect biological systems.
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