Getting Things Done

Ep. 356: David Allen and Justin Hale

Apr 1, 2026
Justin Hale, a training designer at Crucial Learning who builds behavioral programs, shares his long GTD journey. He talks about cultivating self-awareness of habits. He highlights designing teachable GTD training and avoiding the curse of knowledge. He stresses deliberate practice, modeling, and exercises to embed new behaviors.
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ANECDOTE

How Justin First Found GTD

  • Justin Hale joined VitalSmarts (now Crucial Learning) and discovered GTD after years training Crucial Conversations and related courses.
  • He read the original GTD book before meeting David Allen and felt it aligned with their mission to teach life-changing skills.
INSIGHT

GTD Matches A Learning Company's DNA

  • GTD is behaviorally focused and transferable across work and home, which matched Crucial Learning's goal of teaching a small set of life-changing skills.
  • Justin saw GTD as skill-based, research-backed, and immediately impactful across contexts.
INSIGHT

You Fall To Your Productivity Habits

  • Many people overestimate their productivity self-awareness and underestimate how habits shape outcomes.
  • Justin notes people say they do productive behaviors while reporting overwhelm, revealing blind spots about daily habits.
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