
The New Music Business with Ari Herstand Doja Cat's Managers Have It Down
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Feb 18, 2026 Josh Kaplan, an entertainment lawyer-turned-manager who handles deals and business structure, and Gordan Dillard, a manager who oversees visual strategy and brand partnerships, reveal the playbook behind Doja Cat's rise. They discuss visual-first viral moments, short-form vs long-form video, modern label deals and funding, how features get made, and building diversified revenue beyond music.
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Visuals Fueled The Early Breakout
- The Juicy and Say So visuals pivoted Doja Cat into breakout success by leaning into her visual ideas.
- They shifted focus to Say So's video when TikTok trends emerged and the record exploded.
Budget Videos Strategically
- Be smart with budgets: prioritize effective short-form content and cheaper videos if funds are limited.
- Reserve expensive, high-concept videos for artists whose brand and fan expectations justify them.
Deals Follow Leverage
- Record deals depend heavily on leverage: successful artists can negotiate JV-style or ownership arrangements.
- Newer artists often still face traditional royalty deals unless they bring measurable traction.




